Ben and Will are joined by Jenny Phelps MBE who is a senior farm conservation advisor for the Gloucestershire Farming and Wildlife Advisory Group (FWAG) and guest lecturer at the Royal Agricultural University. Jenny has over 30 years of experience in giving on-farm advice and has been with FWAG for 10 years. She leads many different projects, including the Upper Thames Catchment Based Approach and Defra's Payments for Ecosystem Services Pilot. Several years back, she developed the integrated local delivery framework with the support of Countryside and Community Research Institute and Natural England. The framework puts the emphasis on local knowledge and draws together funding and support from multiple sources to put into projects that improve the environment and make local communities more resilient for the future. This big picture thinking episode looks at managing land across the wider landscape and Jenny shares her experience of how landscape-scale projects rely on local communities and their resource, knowledge and connectivity to the land.